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EXP23
June 26th, 2007, 12:37 AM
During our tournament game this past Saturday at Riverstar we had an incident where a bat in play was hit with a thrown ball. Simple enough. The problem arose when it came to the umpire not making a call.

If I remember correctly there were runners on second and third with 2 outs. The batter hits the ball to left field, the runner that was on third picked up the bat and when heading towards the dugout must have tossed it against the fence with about 3 other bats. The runner on second came around and the throw from left was offline and hit A bat, so I retrieved it and ran back to tag the runner out but was too late. I told the ump it hit a bat and he did nothing. I asked him if he saw it hit the bat and he said, "yeah." He told me it didn't matter. I asked him to check the ruling and he went into the pro shop and returned with the same verdict but said it hit the bat the batter was using. I am not sure which bat he used since I was watching the thow come in, as was the umpire but I guess he has a photogenic memory lmao. We went into the pro shop and talked to the park manager and he explained since it was the bat used by the batter it was part of the field. I thought this only mattered if the bat was hit where the batter or on deck batter dropped it.

The umpire handled the situation very professionally and tried to call someone from U-trip headquarters between innings because he too was caught off guard by this. He did a hell of a job the rest of the game so I am in no way bashing him.

Anyone got any idea how this should have been ruled? I have gotten about a 50/50 split when asking other umpires. It will probably never happen again in a game I am involved in but I pride myself on knowing the rulebook inside and out but in my book this page must have been missing. It had little to no impact on the outcome and I am not saying the umpire was incorrect, just curious since in all the years of playing baseball, softball, and umpiring knothole I have never seen this happen.

2timecitychamp
June 26th, 2007, 12:54 AM
3rd out 1 run score the runner on second is out if the ball hits the bats leaning against the dugout fence thats why you always hear the umpire say i want only 1 ondeck batter saw this play a few years ago in the metro correct call was made

EXP23
June 26th, 2007, 12:20 PM
3rd out 1 run score the runner on second is out if the ball hits the bats leaning against the dugout fence thats why you always hear the umpire say i want only 1 ondeck batter saw this play a few years ago in the metro correct call was made

That is what I thought but I was told since it was the bat the batter used it could hit it. Didn't make since since someone moved it.

phatneff
June 26th, 2007, 12:34 PM
That is what I thought but I was told since it was the bat the batter used it could hit it. Didn't make since since someone moved it.

Good scenario! I would agree with your thinking here. I would say that the bat is in play until someone other than the batter touches it or moves it, and that would include the umpire. If the bat remains where it was dropped after the batter swung, it would be considered part of the field.

YoungGuns
June 26th, 2007, 01:40 PM
as long as its the bat the BATTER used thought anything off of it was still in play???